Weekly call about Karrot development 2025

Date: 2025-06-10 on Karrot
Facilitator: all
Minutes: all
Participants: Nathalie, Bruno

1. Opening

  • 10 min Check in
    • attendance
    • duration: 1h
    • information? any (non-karrot) announcements? unavailabilities?
      • :partying_face:
    • next meetings:
      • co-working:
        • wednesday: Nathalie, Bruno
        • thursday: Nathalie
      • weekly: Bruno, Nathalie
    • pick facilitator for next weekly meeting: we’ll see!

2. Consent to agenda

  • 2 min

3. Review last week’s Actions/Outcomes

4. Discussion Points

  • updates - R
    • polls documentation [Nathalie]
      • there’s a video! positive feedback
      • next step: publish on forum and docs
      • next next steps: get nlnet money
    • wrapping up sanctions design [Bruno]
      • plan is to sent it in for NLNET
      • mini version withough the chat and post on the forum
      • ready for NLnet
      • Q: has Nick started on sanctions? no.
      • Q: what about documentation? it’s about design here.
      • Q: do you plan to bring it to another meeting before sending to nlnet? would be good I guess, not specific plans. no consent on it, sending to nlnet is independent. sending minimal version to nlnet, or maybe both?
    • funding pad by Sofi
  • release party - R/ E
    • information
    • exploration
      • presentation of nlnet tasks?
      • facilitate space after program ends?
      • general feedback?
      • Q: duration, the activity is 4h? initial part 1h to 1.5h, then hang-out
      • Bruno
        • space for showing features, reactions and comments for each one
        • get feedback for later
        • won’t be there unfortunatly
        • give space when discussions start
      • Vas
        • it’s not a meeting
        • have a check-in, chill and have some drinks
        • add schedule to activity, join later is ok
        • Bristol days doesn’t make sense, but maybe time-line of events?
        • tracking back history
        • have my harmonica with me :musical_note:
      • Nathalie
        • still looking for someone to present the features
        • maybe checking with Butze
        • not sure about getting feedback, not make it too much a discussion space
        • will think of a quick way for reactions
        • likes the idea of tracking back the history of meetings
        • screenshots, pictures
 more artistic
  • Bristol days forum post. Let’s f* decide - f*D [Vas]
    • publish?
      • looking for explicit consent from everyone
        • still wanting to seek feedback from Nick and Jay
      • write the names of the participants at the beginning
        • location, when, who, why?
    • photos?
      • pictures are good!
      • check with Jay first, pixelate or emoji over facial characteristics [vas]

Later:

  • @Jay reporting a small security issue:

    when applying to a group, the name of the members replying to the applications are replaced by a question mark, but not in the email notifications. I was able to see name and surname of the people replying to me in the email notifications I received when applying (even though my application was never accepted)

  • ideas for funding stuff

5. Actions and Outcomes

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Date: 2025-06-17 on Karrot
Facilitator: Nick
Minutes: Vas
Participants: Nick, Vas, Sofi, Jay, Nathalie, Bruno

1. Opening

  • 10 min Check in
    • attendance
    • duration: 11:15 Central Europe
    • information? any (non-karrot) announcements? unavailabilities?
      • Jay missing some of release party
      • Bruno going to Brazil for a month :brazil:
    • next meetings:
      • co-working:
        • wednesday: Nick, Nathalie, Vas
        • thursday: Nick, Sofi, Nathalie
      • weekly:
      • release party: Nick, Nathalie, Sofi
    • pick facilitator for next weekly meeting: Sofi

2. Consent to agenda

  • 2 min

3. Review last week’s Actions/Outcomes

4. Discussion Points

  • updates - R
  • release party @Nathalie
    • tomorrow!
    • intro harmonica @Vasilis Vasilakis (Ntouros)
    • still looking for someone to present the work we did in the last months
    • https://karrot.world/#/group/191/pads/release-party
      • have a look at the excalidraw, run through some features
      • another voice would be nice
      • maybe another post
      • facilitators? except for Nathalie?
        • Nick: should take on sth, need more thought for that, hand out space would be nice to have some kind of structure, might benefit of a bit of structure, break out rooms? probs could work. Karrot quiz? didnt prepare it yet but could be in small groups. Use some of the Karrot places.
        • Vas: bit with harmonica, very amateur, not professional, planning to have a script and a storyline, where we’re at
 some jamming and some text in between
 like the metaphor of being around the fire, so you can underperform :slight_smile: alcohol free or have some alcohol? would be happy to have some on the side
 maybe Nathalie can decide. when designing quiz, might not be enough people to do break out rooms? so maybe prepare activities to work for both scenarios
        • Bruno: might try to join after meeting, but cannot make it otherwise
        • Sofi: first time being in an online party so don’t know what it’s going to be like, at parties people naturally gather into smaller groups, opening up my mind! regaarding alcohol, who is going to stop you :beers:
        • Nathalie: would probably not start with alcohol, but maybe a break before the hang out space, and invite people if they wanted to
        • 10 people signed up!
  • take a look at funding work-pad from Siegen-people & address discussion pt.
    • https://karrot.world/#/group/191/pads/funding-siegen
    • Famtastisch - been chatting with @Philip Engelbutzeder about how structured an initial email should be, starting to write a draft, can think about whether the visions/values fit what we’re doing
    • many of the criteria seems to fit
    • they look at impact and method, do we have any idea about how to articulate our method, and the measurable impact
    • on the rest of the places
      • two EU funding
      • there is a workshop on how to write EU funding applications, Sofi will attend
      • Philip is enthusiastic about the Karrot district tour
        • Nick: measuring impact, interesting as none of the applications have put it that
        • Vasilis: like the measuring impact point, however skeptical about the reports
          • Karrot has no legal status, not a legal entity, university funding would be better
          • think of mathematical approaches for measuring impact, look more towards environmental impact, footprints
          • community-building is more crucial—good communal practice prevents wrongdoing within food-sharing practitioners
          • CSA is an aspect
          • at some pt traditional market will take care of food-waste, communities will lack excuse to exist

        • Bruno: disagree that they will solve the issue, doesn’t cost them to throw it away, could be part of our argumentation for the funding application
          • other use cases for Karrot, general purpose, dont have many other groups, very few. food system in general as long as there is the capacity to work on that
          • legal entity: we can apply with our fiscal host (all for climate), fee there. that’s one possibility
          • measuring impacts: food waste saved can be a good measurement, human connections, community building, number of activities done
        • Nathalie: we can use all for climate
          • move away from food waste itself, expand
          • food systems more in general is interesting
          • makes sense though to look into food saving
          • collaboration, self-organising communities, commons
          • other fields more digital focus and we build something more grounded, think “transformation digital tools”
          • are foundations all project-related? Do we start a project and look for funding later, or do we look for funding and come up with project later
          • on self-organization aspect, look for funding partners for governance
        • Sofi
          • thank you, very helpful!
          • understanding importance wider measure of impact, more than saving food, community building
          • community as an indispensable means, setting up practises, community in itself as an aim
          • the foundation is looking at food systems in the wider sense, but still within food topics
          • all foundations have an agenda, and they look to try and solve specific questions
          • trying to package what we’re already doing into something that addresses aims for funding
        • Nick
          • https://www.famtastisch.org/en/theory-of-change
            • “Sharing knowledge and best practices and creating coalitions and alliances between equal and unequal parties; reinforcing infrastructures for collaboration.”
            • “As a foundation, we want to move away from project-based funding and towards long-term, unallocated support for our partner organisations. This requires a great deal of trust on both sides, and it takes time to get there. We admit that we have not reached our goal yet; however, we began issuing our first unallocated funding in 2024.”
        • https://nlnet.nl/commonsfund/
        • Bruno:

5. Actions and Outcomes

Jay: sorry, my phone died so I can’t hotspot (and can’t connect to the Karrot call with wifi here) so I can only type. Will charge my pony :horse: and be back