Date: 2025-01-07 on Karrot
Facilitator: Nathalie
Minutes: all
Participants: Nick, Jay, Nathalie
1. Opening
- 10 min Check in
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5 min ADMIN
- attendance
- duration: 11:00h
- information? any (non-karrot) announcements? unavailabilities?
- Nathalie doing her performance review within SoFA
- Vasilis is visiting Nick today
- next meetings:
- co-working: Nathalie, Bruno, Nick and maybe Jay
- focused co-working Thursday afternoon/ish: Nick, Jay, maybe Nathalie
- weekly: Nathalie, Nick, Jay
- pick facilitator for next weekly meeting: Nick
2. Consent to agenda
- 2 min
3. Review last week’s Actions/Outcomes
- rework from scratch agreement related to data interventions [vas]
- write follow up about CSS on forum post [Nathalie]
- sit down and think what to do after Bristol personally [Nathalie]
- forum post on Bristol days - ongoing [vas]
- start working on guidance document for ‘performance reviews’ [Nathalie, Vas]
- money admin work in coworking [Nathalie, Nick, Vas, Bruno]
- done
4. Discussion Points
- updates
- collaborative docs
- christmas bonus feature
- screenshare from Nick
- secret feature for now
- shift + enter → new line within paragraph
- enter → gives you a new paragraph (in markdown that’s an empty line between text)
- how to integrate with the rest of karrot?
- effort to support emojis and mentions
- no document history, can’t save it, see edits
- core editor is tiptap, implemented our own pro features
- add customised blocks that are view components
- Questions/ Reaction
- dev.karrot.world? automatically deployed from main branch
- sometimes announce in beta testers group to test
- maybe have a release party with daves karrot groups cafe
- nathalie has some ideas for a game to do with pads, etc…
- happy to see the formatting seems to work
- glad to see it merged!
- bubble menu, floating menu where you highlight things, could also be a toolbar on the top
- polls
- more screenshare from Nick!
- tidying up
- no time limit on the poll, no public polls
- bountiful bristol
- https://padlet.com/bountifulbris/bountiful-bristol-growing-and-sharing-food-for-all-bvzbw8b6lxdoz3xo
- email exchange about next steps
- enthusiastic about karrot, trial for 2025 growing season
- Matt engaged as researcher, a bit of funding for the meetings
- workshop on Feb 3rd
- try having group on karrot.world and have different places
- previously identify what is the role of whatsapp vs role of karrot
- karrot for more specific organising
- Questions/ Reaction
- nice that they want to try it out!
- share thoughts about the software with us
- Notion – The all-in-one workspace for your notes, tasks, wikis, and databases.
- roles
- happy for input from jay
- Eszter willing to give design input, Nick send an email to Nathalie and Eszter for talk about next steps
- collaborative docs
- Integration session
- Karrot
- what is integration?
- nathalie:
- goal is to make decisions together that support everyones needs
- took learnings from NVC (Non Violent Communication) - going to needs level
- from a thought → but something underlying that speaks to a need
- have a proposal, and people have concerns, but go to underlying needs, and make statements about the underlying need
- then get creative to see how we integrate this need
- speak a lot about “considerations”, concern → consideration
- prominent learning, when go to needs level, relatable needs, can get more shared and solved
- avoiding to get stuck on the positions/ideological perspectives, where you can get into fights
- one takeaway: not much about convergence/divergence… we actually diverged a lot, at the end had to work out where we go… takeaway was to allow the divergence if that’s where it’s going, letting it flow a bit
- nick:
- miki kashtan, lot of work in NVC field
- overwhelmed with terminology
- we need these types of processes
- personally was a bit overwhelmed: what are the necessary pre-conditions?
- having a trusted group with a shared intention
- got a bit long discussion in the session
- even if it goes very broad, facilitator can help with story telling and framing ‘this is really an important topic’, ‘this is a good basis for our next steps’
- process and digital tools?, easily gets technocratic, point people to processes and websites, could use pad and videocall
- Nathalie:
- not super clear thoughts, did I enjoy it or not?
- expected a bit more theory input, very practise oriented
- lots of things have heard in other places
- quite a complex case to facilitate (the example in the workshop with 20 people)
- was also thinking about how to guide workshops, enjoyed the openness and practise space
- but wasn’t so clear it would be practise space more, maybe could have used it more for that, didn’t speak and wonder why
- big group vs small group, sociocracy encourages small groups and trust building
- but here said you can do it with 80 or 300, as needs don’t scale up with people (as needs are shared/common)
- different levels of thinking/decision making
- can see how this technique could work with larger groups
- personally, did notice nicks stress, attention was split, having the call and the pad (nick and nathalie wrote notes in a shared pad)
- interesting how digital can support process… in the end it’s about people talking and making connections, what degree can software provide it?
- Nick
- strong facilitation, key role and shape the session, make decisions how to proceed
- make decision without any discussion possible, e.g. check for objections/ concerns
- being reminded of other times, example didn’t feel relatable
- jay
- sounds like an interesting session!
- nathalie:
- nlnet timeline extension?
- made a coworking item!
Next:
- opencollective (linking opencollective and karrot instance) [vas]
5. Actions and Outcomes
- rework from scratch agreement related to data interventions [vas]
- write follow up about CSS on forum post [Nathalie]
- sit down and think what to do after Bristol personally [Nathalie]
- forum post on Bristol days - ongoing [vas]
- start working on guidance document for ‘performance reviews’ [Nathalie, Vas]
- more money admin: do tranfer and check expenses [Nick]
- transfer money to karrot [Jay]
- pad release party
[Nathalie] - nick email eszter and nathalie [Nick]
- get our head around nlnet tasks [coworking]
- continue working on getting polls ready to merge [Nick]
6. Closing Ceremony
- 10 min
- checkout