Weekly call about Karrot development 2025

Date: 2025-11-04 on Karrot
Facilitator: we the people
Minutes:
Participants: Bruno, Nathalie

1. Opening

  • 10 min Check in
    • attendance (fill in above)
    • duration: latest 11:00 CET
    • information? any (non-karrot) announcements? unavailabilities?
      • Nathalie in holiday mode next week (at least two Tuesday)
      • Bruno not doing co-working next week
    • next meetings:
      • co-working:
        • Wednesday: Nathalie, Bruno
        • Thursday: no
      • strategy session (Friday): yes
      • weekly: Bruno
    • pick facilitator for next weekly meeting: waiting for other people

2. Consent to agenda

  • 2 min

3. Review last week’s Actions/Outcomes

4. Discussion points

  • updates
    • none
  • release
    • banner text, test on dev (Bruno has action item)
    • 2 or 1 banner texts?
      • pre- release
      • at the time
    • check with Nick about pre-release banner
    • use text from karrot group for a forum post! and link this post in banner
    • Nathalie could do more testing in co-working tomorrow (if she joins)
    • feedback issue? high demand bug fix
      • if not now def next
      • but maybe now
 :pray:
  • workshop Göteborg
    • Bruno has an idea! :bulb:
        1. karrot focused work, get together for the team, onboard new contributors like Wilhelm and others
        1. foodsharing Sweden project side; Nathalie & Butze lots of experience with foodsharing, foodsharing focused workshop, maybe started outreach already and there is interest from other cities in the region
      • Bruno can organise places to stay
      • connections hard to establish online, get more Swedish people on board!
      • Bruno & Butze talked about March, spring-time
      • finance with project money as part of the development money (~7000€)
    • reactions
      • checking the Bristol days pad (2300 EUR inc. Airbnb)
      • 2k-3k sounds feasible
      • thinking about how much for travel expenses and how much for development
      • more interested in number 1 (Karrot)
      • can imagine being a guest for a workshop on number 2
        • don’t know much about food safety. is it a big topic there? B: not really
      • Butze seems really interested, better candidate to lead this, maybe he could even bring Anton?
      • it would feel odd if introduced as a person from FS Germany
      • invite someone from Foodsharing is an idea
      • think we should start planning this now
      • the sooner we get to it the more likely
      • how long could it be? a week?
      • Bruno: could be as long as you wish! maybe span over 2 weekends, flexible from my side. have one whole weekend in this time frame
      • March/ April seem good
      • people are happy when spring starts, there is also a forest close by
      • Bruno to start with outreach campaign already
      • ‘How to organise your group’ workshop
      • could even do sociocracy input
      • get even more funding!
  • funding: https://www.thecatalyst.org.uk/current-projects/kindling/
    • Deadline to apply: Noon, 21 November 2025
    • continue conversation in thread
    • could do collaborative writing to apply, but seems very easy
    • needs at least one person committing to go in person
    • We won’t fund:
      • Activity that takes place outside the UK
      • Projects unrelated to tech justice
      • Large capital purchases (e.g. buying equipment)
      • Work that is already fully funded elsewhere. This does not include additions to previously funded activities.
    • funding for karrot? a bit more of a sub-project (one specific feature/ aspect)
    • could send them a question explaining karrot’s situation

Next:

5. Actions and Outcomes

  • write to bartosz about csv report [nick] VIII
  • continue on finance app [Jay] VII
  • try a visualisation of our strategy on excalidraw [Nick] IV
  • put the redis systemd preserve runtime directory into yuca ansible [Nick] III
  • contact VolontĂ€rbyrĂ„ [Bruno] II
  • write banner texts @Bruno
  • check eligibility for NLNet @Vasilis Vasilakis (Ntouros) II
  • check with Nick and open signal group for server discussion with Timber and Tilmann @Nathalie
  • point Daniel to the feedback discussion in karrot group @Nathalie
  • check with Nick around kindling funding @Bruno

Date: 2025-11-11 on Karrot
Facilitator: Vas
Minutes: Vas, Bruno
Participants: Vas, Bruno

1. Opening

  • 10 min Check in
    • attendance (fill in above)
    • duration: 11 CET
    • information? any (non-karrot) announcements? unavailabilities?
      • Vas is back on the 24rd of Nov.
    • next meetings:
      • co-working:
        • Wednesday: -
        • Thursday: -
      • weekly: Bruno maybe
    • pick facilitator for next weekly meeting: Bruno (provisional)

2. Consent to agenda

  • 2 min

3. Review last week’s Actions/Outcomes

  • write to bartosz about csv report [nick] VIII
  • continue on finance app [Jay] VII
  • try a visualisation of our strategy on excalidraw [Nick] IV
  • put the redis systemd preserve runtime directory into yuca ansible [Nick] III
  • contact VolontĂ€rbyrĂ„ [Bruno] II
  • write banner texts @Bruno
  • check eligibility for NLNet @Vasilis Vasilakis (Ntouros) II
  • check with Nick and open signal group for server discussion with Timber and Tilmann @Nathalie
  • point Daniel to the feedback discussion in karrot group @Nathalie
    • done? Daniel found it!
  • check with Nick around kindling funding @Bruno

4. Discussion points

  • updates
    • prepared for release for all new features
    • banner is written, on dev
    • pop up icons explaining new features on dev
    • beta-testing done
    • meeting, everyone had an issue unf
    • we should replan the strategy call
  • NLnet upcoming funding call - https://nlnet.nl/commonsfund/
    • deadline of December 1st 2025 12:00 CET

    • looking to the previous calls, part of different calls

    • latest was NGI0Entrust, data sovereignty

    • having the same feeling as the previous time that we r not that technical for this

    • brainstorm some ideas

    • 24 - 27 could be some days to put things down if we decide to proceed

    • community management for commons in the physical world

      brainstorming on web4: bridge the physical with the digital

    • manage shared resources

Next:

5. Actions and Outcomes

  • write to bartosz about csv report [nick] IV
  • continue on finance app [Jay] VIII
  • try a visualisation of our strategy on excalidraw [Nick] V
  • put the redis systemd preserve runtime directory into yuca ansible [Nick] IV
  • contact VolontĂ€rbyrĂ„ [Bruno] III
  • check eligibility for NLNet @Vasilis Vasilakis (Ntouros) III
  • check with Nick and open signal group for server discussion with Timber and Tilmann @Nathalie
  • check with Nick around kindling funding @Bruno
  • Book the strategy call on the normal call the 25th @Vasilis Vasilakis (Ntouros)

Date: 2025-11-25 on Karrot
Facilitator: Vasilitator
Minutes: all
Participants: Bruno, Nathalie, Nick, Vas

1. Opening

  • 10 min Check in
    • attendance (fill in above)
    • duration: 1h, nick until 10:30 CET until 11 CET
    • information? any (non-karrot) announcements? unavailabilities?
      • vas away from 22nd december, then to oxford real farming conference
    • next meetings:
      • co-working:
        • Wednesday: Nathalie, Bruno
        • Thursday: Nathalie
      • weekly:
    • pick facilitator for next weekly meeting: Bruno

2. Consent to agenda

  • 2 min

3. Review last week’s Actions/Outcomes

  • write to bartosz about csv report [nick] IV
  • continue on finance app [Jay] VIII
  • try a visualisation of our strategy on excalidraw [Nick] V
  • put the redis systemd preserve runtime directory into yuca ansible [Nick] IV
  • contact VolontĂ€rbyrĂ„ [Bruno] III
  • check eligibility for NLNet @Vasilis Vasilakis (Ntouros) III
    • done
  • check with Nick and open signal group for server discussion with Timber and Tilmann @Nathalie
    • there is a group now about server things
  • check with Nick around kindling funding @Bruno
    • deadline passed
  • Book the strategy call on the normal call the 25th @Vasilis Vasilakis (Ntouros)
    • done

4. Discussion points

  • updates
    • paper rejected once again (Vasilis) :frowning: :frowning:
    • bath community :seedling:
    • tech collective in Sweden/ Gothenburg, could host karrot @Bruno
  • nlnet/ strategy
    • deadline 1st of Dec
      • Nathalie:
        • excited to use excalidraw, summary of topics
          • use our strategy notes to draw out some software ideas for NLnet
          • do have time to come up with a collection of ideas
        • How much text it needs??? Bit less motivated to write these things
      • Vas:
        • would be great if we make it! but quite tight deadline, would feel a bit sad if we didn’t try

        • tomorrow traveling, maybe can join co-working
? need to check

        • was involved in the two previous proposals
        • text should be quite to the point, title and small paragraph
        • 1st is next monday, at noon CET
      • Bruno:
        • positive, we should try
        • not aim for a lot of features
        • strategy work that we didnt finish
        • make strategy before the application ? not possible as of now
        • but we can think in parallel
      • Nick:
        • I feel that its worth having a go
        • very clear, clearly understood things already, avoid vague,
        • making a smaller application
        • less items/money
        • Monday 12 is the deadline, sunday is busy
        • further enabling self-hosting might be quite appealing
        • very much in line with our visions as well
    • Suggestion: Attempt to converge some ideas for NLNet
      • thread list of ideas, engage there
        • the more recent one
      • suite of public pages on self-hosted instance
      • public sign up for activities
.
      • organising pads in “docs”
      • progressive UI
        • introducing wide level of complexity to the user
        • requires design process
      • Karrot for small groups?
      • support organizing common resources
        • requires design process
        • could be related to IoT, connecting a physical object to Karrot
      • different activities/ event types
      • become more general purpose (not ready for other communities)
        • pair up with a community, e.g. Makerspace
    • another round
      • a couple of more defined ideas and one that requires design process
      • is a design-only task acceptable by Nlnet?
        • we can always submit and adjust after their feedback
      • progressive UI seems interesting
    • public sign-up
    • public pages
    • design process: progressive interface (with implementation?)
    • improve broader use of activities (beyond pick-ups): make it more concrete

Next:

5. Actions and Outcomes

  • write to bartosz about csv report [nick] V
  • continue on finance app [Jay] IX
  • try a visualisation of our strategy on excalidraw [Nick] VI
  • put the redis systemd preserve runtime directory into yuca ansible [Nick] V
  • contact VolontĂ€rbyrĂ„ [Bruno] IV
  • continue nlnet proposal [all]