Many times groups have asked us for polls, and they currently use external tools for this, but that is problematic as it’s not restricted to group members, and external systems often confuse less technologically comfortable people. Some groups have already appropriated other features within Karrot to try achieve this functionality.
We will add general purpose polls that groups can use for formal or informal purposes within their groups. It should be configurable how they work to support the groups real use cases.
Best practise in polls can be understood by looking at WhatsApp, Telegram, loomio, discourse, etc. to come up with an approach that will feel familiar and easy to use.
It will be extensible to incorporate new types of polls over time, with a potential for being used to facilitate consent-based processes, which some groups use in their internal organisation.
within a card, e.g. activity, agreement, chat message (context)
poll title, description
poll type → time/date, options, ranking
maximum number of options you can select
can other people add options?
does the creator want to stay anonymous?
voter anonymoity?
anoymouse
not anonymous
let voter choose
results
public results
or only creator/group to see results
show results in realtime, or only after submission
Vasilis
checked in loomio to see different options, very advanced
imagined scenario somebod has to make a poll, with a person that is editor
use main wall, have the option to make it for
all group members
members of a specific place
specific roles (e.g. only editors, approved, newcomers)
(but are the editors going to make polls for newcomers only? and newcomers can’t make a poll? if newcomers can make a poll to make an insurrection?)
can make it a “formal” poll
a chat connected to the poll
a list of options
a time frame
the creator of the proposal can edit the proposal, depending on the chat, which would reinitiate the voting process, e.g. for a week
a tickbox for the creator, can say that the outcome will become an agreement for 6 months (for example), and be locked for that time period
if the poll is specific to editors, for example, they’d receive a notification to say it
option to have anonymous participation or not, but not tangible scenario in head
what happens if somebody wants to close a poll, as they go “oh shit I didn’t want to make that”, do they just take it down or what?
Nick
copied whatsapp with one extra box
message + button create a poll (instead of adding an attachment)
can select an emoji for each option
checkboc with multiple or single option
can add a context box to the poll to explain what it is
menu option to get the list of all the polls on the wall
can view the votes by clicking on it
no other options, very bounded
Butze
first option, do you want a quick poll or elaborated poll
looked at telegram and whatsapp
whatsapp, if you type something you already have as an option it tells you, was helpful!
it always shows an empty box at the end for another option, on telegram you have to actively press “new option”
in telegram is has a visual aspect, tells you the percentage, and a line to show you, you can also click on it to show results
Marie
visual aspect to make it clear
add poll, next to attachment button, or just underneath it
about time limit, if it’s just checking boxes, vs submitting it, understanding when you can change your answer, and if there is a time limit that’s the end, and you can’t change your mind
if the editor can close the poll, after he has done so, order the results according to popularity (most chosen option on top, etc)
Bruno
start with context, e.g. a chat
quite a simple view at first, need simplicity
was checking discourse where you can configure the paramters
mentioned lots, time limits, anonymous, type of poll
limiting voting to groups, but to certain roles here, could be useful depending on the roles
very extra features, connecting to agreements, activities, sanactions - results of poll could show up there
you might start it in a chat, or an agreement, and it might lead to an agreement, so then the poll results can be registered there
nice when a poll leads to a certain action, instead of going down that rabbit hole, connecting to contexts, so just visualizing for now
Nathalie
spend most of the time thinking about the context
looked at karrot, thinking about polls at places
another tab on the places view for “polls”
who can create polls?
if it’s tied to a place, there could be a menu item that fetches the polls from all the places
initially thought to only make it in the main menu, but prefer it within the places
but thinking about having it in the chat, wall, wow!
have been following foodsharing logic (or having polls section)
looked into other features, like the view thinking about how it would appear, having an overview of the polls (running + decided, can filter them), then a side view with chat and the vote, so you can ask for clarification, etc… feels more advanced polls, not just a quick check
Quick reactions? MVP? What should be included?
What must be included?
Jay
need to put at least: title, description, whether new options can be added or not, voter anonymity
Vas
on the main wall, everyone can make a poll, description, options, can see results, chat box on side, like the membership review, but call it poll
simple voting instead of score voting
Nick
messenger poll
convertional aspect of it
title, free-form options
almost no features, make it a bit shit
Butze
everything has been said
maybe during cooking event, there is a board, could make a mockup, at breakfast could do it when half awake
take it eeeeeassy now
Marie
agree with everyone, minimal viable version
one bonus option: the idea to find the polls, have a poll view, polls get drowned when there are new messages, finding polls quickly and effeciencenceoniceoitntly (haha!)
Bruno
basic options
find the right context to put them
extra item on the menu?
need to find it easily, and not maybe too much to limit voting to roles (bonus feature!)
Nathalie
would like to think more about the context properly
feeling too rushed
minimal product would be to link it to the wall, but not in the chat message, first post could be a vote, then with comments in a thread.
I’m going to start working on a mockup. This is what I include, and the things marked with an * are a must have, whereas others would be a nice to have:
button to start a poll on the walls (main wall, place walls)*
should we have it on threads/conversations too?
polls will include
question*
options*
time frame
single choice or multiple choice
limit voting to role
notifications about polls*
a poll has been started
x day(s) or hour(s) left to vote
creating a poll creates a thread for a conversation as well
menu item to find all polls*
should it be pools and agreements? Should we create a new menu item encompassing all governance related stuff (issues, polls, agreements), maybe naming it Decisions?
